MH_Bomber wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 12:20 pm
Looking buffed is my man Menzie
It will be interesting to see if all the attendee s to this camp have markedly improved seasons as a result (although it might be difficult for Kylos to have a markedly improved season on last season).
You would hope to see greater stamina, more physical intensity, and sharper cognition in their outputs.
Those that stayed home… what were their programs? One wonders.
Why might you expect greater performance from those that went to Arizona?
If the players that stayed in Aus trained just as hard, they'll be just as fit.
In essence, higher altitude training requires more ‘effort’ due to the slight reduction in oxygen and atmospheric pressure, meaning the body has to work harder to compensate or acclimatise to the conditions. It’s all scientific and clubs have been using it for years. Certain blood cells and muscle metabolism work harder - meaning greater benefits for the athlete (but I’m no sports scientist).
Those who stayed here would probably have to work 1.5 times harder (at a guess) than those in Arizona. Maybe twice as hard.
There is a belief that endurance, strength and conditioning is increased by training at high altitudes.
Short term benefit only. The body compensates for the inability to carry enough O2 by making more haemoglobin to do it. Once down to your normal altitude that corrects quick enough so that the benefit isn't maintained over time.
EPO (erythropoietin) is the quick way to do the same thing, but we all know that's naughty.
EPO was undetectable last time I knew about it, but the testing related to expected ratios etc...
VO2 max is something that can be measured, though it's really just a measurement comparing inhaled O2 to exhaled O2 to presume a level of cellular fitness.
It will be interesting to see if all the attendee s to this camp have markedly improved seasons as a result (although it might be difficult for Kylos to have a markedly improved season on last season).
You would hope to see greater stamina, more physical intensity, and sharper cognition in their outputs.
Those that stayed home… what were their programs? One wonders.
Why might you expect greater performance from those that went to Arizona?
If the players that stayed in Aus trained just as hard, they'll be just as fit.
In essence, higher altitude training requires more ‘effort’ due to the slight reduction in oxygen and atmospheric pressure, meaning the body has to work harder to compensate or acclimatise to the conditions. It’s all scientific and clubs have been using it for years. Certain blood cells and muscle metabolism work harder - meaning greater benefits for the athlete (but I’m no sports scientist).
Those who stayed here would probably have to work 1.5 times harder (at a guess) than those in Arizona. Maybe twice as hard.
There is a belief that endurance, strength and conditioning is increased by training at high altitudes.
Short term benefit only. The body compensates for the inability to carry enough O2 by making more haemoglobin to do it. Once down to your normal altitude that corrects quick enough so that the benefit isn't maintained over time.
EPO (erythropoietin) is the quick way to do the same thing, but we all know that's naughty.
EPO was undetectable last time I knew about it, but the testing related to expected ratios etc...
VO2 max is something that can be measured, though it's really just a measurement comparing inhaled O2 to exhaled O2 to presume a level of cellular fitness.
Thanks F111
There's no long term benefit (beyond a few weeks) from altitude training
rockhole wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2023 10:56 am
I am still badly scarred from the pathetic efforts displayed in the final two rounds from last year.
Normally, around this time of year, I am starting to run through last seasons games looking for a bit of inspiration.
I simply cannot get motivated to read the various “fluff” pieces in the press .
Until these pricks show something on the field, I don’t care if they train in the Siberian Desert.
Hmmmm,even if they are from the NFL's Past,reckon some Rigid Street Training under the watchfull eyes(Step by Step!)of George Seifert,Ray Rhodes and Ronnie Lott for a Year,might sort out the Shit from Clay!
Splash the Cash Essendon!
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rockhole wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2023 10:56 am
I am still badly scarred from the pathetic efforts displayed in the final two rounds from last year.
Normally, around this time of year, I am starting to run through last seasons games looking for a bit of inspiration.
I simply cannot get motivated to read the various “fluff” pieces in the press .
Until these pricks show something on the field, I don’t care if they train in the Siberian Desert.
It’s all starting again… the socials showing training seshies and talking up players who are just competing at half arsed intensity.
It’s becoming embarrassing I must say.
Absolutely 100% THIS.
Saw one the other day talking about how someone gave a "hospital handpass" and the receiving player pulled out from getting smashed and they all joked about it afterwards.
rockhole wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2023 10:56 am
I am still badly scarred from the pathetic efforts displayed in the final two rounds from last year.
Normally, around this time of year, I am starting to run through last seasons games looking for a bit of inspiration.
I simply cannot get motivated to read the various “fluff” pieces in the press .
Until these pricks show something on the field, I don’t care if they train in the Siberian Desert.
It’s all starting again… the socials showing training seshies and talking up players who are just competing at half arsed intensity.
It’s becoming embarrassing I must say.
Absolutely 100% THIS.
Saw one the other day talking about how someone gave a "hospital handpass" and the receiving player pulled out from getting smashed and they all joked about it afterwards.
Goldstein pretty dominant in the ruck. Here he taps to space for Gresham to handball to Hepps and then pass from his wrong foot. Ball ends up going long and Baldwin takes a great contested defensive mark
The footage is just junk. It’s just like watching a pre-match warm up routine. FMD. Why carry on like this is match condition?
I think Goldstein was up against a witches hat if I’m not mistaken.
Had to laugh at someone posting… “can’t wait to one day see our pre-season team of the century”
BenDoolan wrote: ↑Tue Dec 19, 2023 5:14 am
Hahaha… my favourite is this…
Goldstein pretty dominant in the ruck. Here he taps to space for Gresham to handball to Hepps and then pass from his wrong foot. Ball ends up going long and Baldwin takes a great contested defensive mark
The footage is just junk. It’s just like watching a pre-match warm up routine. FMD. Why carry on like this is match condition?
I think Goldstein was up against a witches hat if I’m not mistaken.
Had to laugh at someone posting… “can’t wait to one day see our pre-season team of the century”
That'd pretty much be the 2000 Pre-season Premiership Team.
BenDoolan wrote: ↑Tue Dec 19, 2023 5:14 am
Hahaha… my favourite is this…
Goldstein pretty dominant in the ruck. Here he taps to space for Gresham to handball to Hepps and then pass from his wrong foot. Ball ends up going long and Baldwin takes a great contested defensive mark
The footage is just junk. It’s just like watching a pre-match warm up routine. FMD. Why carry on like this is match condition?
I think Goldstein was up against a witches hat if I’m not mistaken.
Had to laugh at someone posting… “can’t wait to one day see our pre-season team of the century”
That'd pretty much be the 2000 Pre-season Premiership Team.
Spot on!
Back in the day when they actually played OPPOSITION, and there was something at stake.
BenDoolan wrote: ↑Tue Dec 19, 2023 5:14 am
Hahaha… my favourite is this…
Goldstein pretty dominant in the ruck. Here he taps to space for Gresham to handball to Hepps and then pass from his wrong foot. Ball ends up going long and Baldwin takes a great contested defensive mark
The footage is just junk. It’s just like watching a pre-match warm up routine. FMD. Why carry on like this is match condition?
I think Goldstein was up against a witches hat if I’m not mistaken.
Had to laugh at someone posting… “can’t wait to one day see our pre-season team of the century”
That'd pretty much be the 2000 Pre-season Premiership Team.
Spot on!
Back in the day when they actually played OPPOSITION, and there was something at stake.
29 Wins from 30 Games,with the Day and Night Double to Boot!
I hate getting Superstitious,but sometimes I wonder if the Football Gods punish us for that season,or Miami Dolphins(who are not my NFL Team)with a 17 and 0 Season.Though they Won the following Season's Super Bowl,I get the feeling the more they hang on to The Only Perfect Season,the further away they are from their next Lombardi.
rockhole wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2023 10:56 am
I am still badly scarred from the pathetic efforts displayed in the final two rounds from last year.
Normally, around this time of year, I am starting to run through last seasons games looking for a bit of inspiration.
I simply cannot get motivated to read the various “fluff” pieces in the press .
Until these pricks show something on the field, I don’t care if they train in the Siberian Desert.
It’s all starting again… the socials showing training seshies and talking up players who are just competing at half arsed intensity.
It’s becoming embarrassing I must say.
Absolutely 100% THIS.
Saw one the other day talking about how someone gave a "hospital handpass" and the receiving player pulled out from getting smashed and they all joked about it afterwards.
Was any Coach running Training then?????!!!!!!
No idea, but I presume so.
Speaking of Coaches, and training, and pre-season, and social media....
It's rather ironic that about a week ago Brad Scott said (paraphrased) - "fans want less talk and more action"
But meanwhile, the fans are all talk and not waiting for any action.
Probably only have themselves to blame if they're disappointed by whatever 2024 brings
rockhole wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2023 10:56 am
I am still badly scarred from the pathetic efforts displayed in the final two rounds from last year.
Normally, around this time of year, I am starting to run through last seasons games looking for a bit of inspiration.
I simply cannot get motivated to read the various “fluff” pieces in the press .
Until these pricks show something on the field, I don’t care if they train in the Siberian Desert.
It’s all starting again… the socials showing training seshies and talking up players who are just competing at half arsed intensity.
It’s becoming embarrassing I must say.
Absolutely 100% THIS.
Saw one the other day talking about how someone gave a "hospital handpass" and the receiving player pulled out from getting smashed and they all joked about it afterwards.
Was any Coach running Training then?????!!!!!!
No idea, but I presume so.
Speaking of Coaches, and training, and pre-season, and social media....
It's rather ironic that about a week ago Brad Scott said (paraphrased) - "fans want less talk and more action"
But meanwhile, the fans are all talk and not waiting for any action.
Probably only have themselves to blame if they're disappointed by whatever 2024 brings
There are more and more cynical condescending remarks to these posts every day. Well, the ones I’ve seen anyway…
