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Marto; Back or Forward

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2024 1:13 am
by rockhole
The last time I recall a discussion around this topic was whether to play Hurls back or forward.
To my mind, anyone who could kick a 50m goal on his non preferred is wasted on the backline. Martin is one of those elite players that come along once in a decade if you are lucky. He would shine no matter where you play him, but as you need to kick goals to win games of footy, I would play him as a forward in a heartbeat.
His last quarter up forward against the Pies was a key reason why we walked away with 2 points.

Re: Marto; Back or Forward

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2024 1:39 am
by nudder12
Agree - forward is his best use.
I'm old fashioned. First priority for defenders is to defend, and I'm not convinced he's great at that. And having him do kickouts from a behind seems a waste.
He has a talent for creating time and space, and he uses the ball really well. A potent mix for someone in the front half, and something we are lacking.
I see why we're using him down back right now - for ball movement out of defence - but into the future we should be able to release him from that role.
End of this year, during trade period, we should target a genuine half-back with pace and skill and that will allow Martin to be used in the forward role.

Re: Marto; Back or Forward

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2024 8:12 am
by BenDoolan
Yes… probably wing is best. His running ability enables him to get back and help with defence when needed, but obviously would be there to create something forward of centre.

He was regarded one of the best wingmen in 2023 at some stage!

He has been released at times during the course of games (or maybe he’s taken it upon himself?)… where he ran down the ground and kicked the winning goal against the Crows. Follows it up this week with creating a goal for himself and setting one up for Langford in the last quarter.

Whenever he drifts further up the ground, good things happen for us.

Re: Marto; Back or Forward

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2024 12:09 am
by BenDoolan
It’s time to get him in the forward part of the ground. The useless f**** that occupy our F50 as ‘small forwards’ are just a waste of space. At least Marto has a fkng clue and produces something out of nothing.

Re: Marto; Back or Forward

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2024 9:04 am
by s'dreams
Put El-Hawli on the back flank and move Martin forward.

It would be a win-win

Re: Marto; Back or Forward

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2024 10:06 am
by BenDoolan
s'dreams wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2024 9:04 am Put El-Hawli on the back flank and move Martin forward.

It would be a win-win
Yes!

And they could interchange in their roles. SEH is very handy around F50 also…

Re: Marto; Back or Forward

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2024 2:33 pm
by s'dreams
BenDoolan wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2024 10:06 am
s'dreams wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2024 9:04 am Put El-Hawli on the back flank and move Martin forward.

It would be a win-win
Yes!

And they could interchange in their roles. SEH is very handy around F50 also…
Trouble is he kicks more behinds than Skinner or Wright.

Re: Marto; Back or Forward

Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2024 2:54 pm
by BenDoolan
3 goals to Marto last night while playing on the wing.

He’s a bloody good runner. He presents himself absolutely everywhere.

Re: Marto; Back or Forward

Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2024 2:57 pm
by s'dreams
BenDoolan wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 2:54 pm 3 goals to Marto last night while playing on the wing.

He’s a bloody good runner. He presents himself absolutely everywhere.
Someone pointed out to me that Martin is an outstanding kick in the F50 but one of our worst in the backline...

Re: Marto; Back or Forward

Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2024 4:04 pm
by BenDoolan
s'dreams wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 2:57 pm
BenDoolan wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 2:54 pm 3 goals to Marto last night while playing on the wing.

He’s a bloody good runner. He presents himself absolutely everywhere.
Someone pointed out to me that Martin is an outstanding kick in the F50 but one of our worst in the backline...
Well… he does have the occasional howler down back - no question. He is a genuinely good kick. I just think he’s far better utilised on the wing where he is so damaging forward of centre. It’s a no-brainer. It is so f****** frustrating that he is used the way he is. I’d guarantee the 17 other clubs (after seeing 60 odd games) would be playing him in his most damaging position. And that ain’t half back f****** flank.

Re: Marto; Back or Forward

Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2024 1:19 am
by grassy1
BenDoolan wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 4:04 pm
s'dreams wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 2:57 pm
BenDoolan wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 2:54 pm 3 goals to Marto last night while playing on the wing.

He’s a bloody good runner. He presents himself absolutely everywhere.
Someone pointed out to me that Martin is an outstanding kick in the F50 but one of our worst in the backline...
Well… he does have the occasional howler down back - no question. He is a genuinely good kick. I just think he’s far better utilised on the wing where he is so damaging forward of centre. It’s a no-brainer. It is so f****** frustrating that he is used the way he is. I’d guarantee the 17 other clubs (after seeing 60 odd games) would be playing him in his most damaging position. And that ain’t half back f****** flank.
My My!The Scott brothers have had a good weekend,haven't they? :shock: